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Which Rendering Software Should I Learn?

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I've been doing some work on Inventor studio but I want to learn to use some software that is specifically designed just for the task of rendering photo realistic photos and videos.

 

Please could people suggest some that would not only be particularly good at using with solid models that I have made, but also which are the most useful for helping to get a job, (i.e. the ones most popular with product design companies).

 

Thank you for your help.

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There are a lot of good programs and typically when hiring very few will care about which you use.

 

Keyshot is a great all around tool and very fast. 3D Studio Max and Maya are more traditional animation tools that have a huge amount of features but very steep learning curves. There are a number of in between programs and stand alone rendering engines (IE renders for other 3D packages) like Maxwell Render, Autodesk Showcase, VRAY, Modo, etc.

 

The biggest thing to consider is workflow. I used to use Maya for all my rendering but in the real world it is too time consuming. A tool like Hypershot or Showcase lets you set things up and render them out in real time which allows me to get 90% of the way there in 10% of the time. Compared to a tool like Maxwell Render which creates incredibly photorealistic shots but at the cost of performance and setup time.

 

Modo has some very cool features for product design and seems to plug in nicely if you use Solidworks. Most tools have demos you can try out as well.

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Thank you for your help.

The reason I ask about hiring is because a lot of jobs are through agencies and if you can't use the software that the company has asked for then they won't put you forward, mainly because most agencies haven't a clue about anything.

 

Now you say Keyshot, I have seen Hypershot asked for a few times which I think became keyshot. I might have to try Showcase as well since it plays nice with Inventor.

 

The problem I have with Inventor is that it takes sooooooooooo long.

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Thank you for your help.

The reason I ask about hiring is because a lot of jobs are through agencies and if you can't use the software that the company has asked for then they won't put you forward, mainly because most agencies haven't a clue about anything.

 

Now you say Keyshot, I have seen Hypershot asked for a few times which I think became keyshot. I might have to try Showcase as well since it plays nice with Inventor.

 

The problem I have with Inventor is that it takes sooooooooooo long.

 

Hypershot did become keyshot. Bunkspeed "Shot" is a new product along similar lines but the general feeling at the moment is it requires a super powerful machine and isn't terribly stable.

 

Well if it's worth asking, what type of renderings are you looking to do? If you're using inventor and looking to do less photorealistic stuff but want to crank out compelling visuals fast Showcase is very good (and what I use even for product work). Showcase plays pretty well with most engineering software although they screwed up some of the most basic settings in the recent version but it can be worked around.

 

As far as job placement goes, I think it really all depends on what jobs you're looking at. Most job's for an entry level position won't bust balls if you know something similar. For senior level positions, it will probably be expected but in many fields visualization isn't always a primary skill. I'm in the corporate world and our renderings are only used for internal communications (design reviews, presentations, etc). High end renderings usually get farmed out or skipped by going straight to appearance models and photography.

 

Keyshot does have a trial out there though that is worth trying.

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Thanks for your reply. I'm kind of looking to move on to a mid-level design job. I have been designing products for five years now. We don't tend to do much rendering because the sales team get excited and sell things before we can make them, but I know some places are keen on doing photo realistic stuff.

This is why I want to learn it in my spare time.

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Normally I use Keyshot because it's extremely fast.

 

There are not that much settings you can change. It's just for fast rendering.

When it comes to photorealism Keyshot is not the best choice but there is no other render engine out there that makes nearly photorealistic pictures as quick as Keyshot does.

 

In my point of view Maxwell makes the most photorealistic pictures but it's hard to learn and operate.

 

I think you will go best with Keyshot.

I would test keyshot

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What's the best format for importing in to Keyshot?

 

I tried Step last night and it took about 15 minutes just to import a fairly simple assembly I'd exported from Inventor.

 

(I didn't take the Inventor file in directly because I was using the Mac version and I think you need Inventor installed on the machine you have keyshot on.)

 

Also, when it finally came in, the screen was completely blank, I hadn't added any lights though so maybe this is the reason? I need to have a play around with it but it was bed time!

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You can import inventor files when you have keyshot 2.1.

They added this feature in version 2.1 and sometimes there are problems with inventor files.

 

Normally there should be no problem with step files.

You could try to turn off the "new importer" in the preferences. then try again to import your step file.

(I didn't take the Inventor file in directly because I was using the Mac version and I think you need Inventor installed on the machine you have keyshot on.)

Those two applications don't need to be on the same machine.

 

Also, when it finally came in, the screen was completely blank, I hadn't added any lights though so maybe this is the reason? I need to have a play around with it but it was bed time!

In Keyshot there are no lights, it uses HDRI backgrounds (with light information in it). Try to set a background.

 

I hope it will work out for you!

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I'm in exactly the same boat as you my friend...

 

been using Inventor for 3 years now for all my design work and then studio for the renders. Its adequate for our clients but I know I can do better with better software.

 

Im in the process of learning solidoworks as ive notice the built in render software is able to produce better images and is probably just as quick to set up as studio.

 

I have also tried hypershot but it killed my machine! i have a cad workstation but i dont think its quite tweeked for high quality renderings.

 

My next venture is showcase! I dont need incredibly high quality renderings, and I need to produce them quick, so a real time render package is the ideal.

 

Ill let you know how i get on.

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Hello I have been using CATIA Live Rendering, which integrates the new IRAY technology from mental images.

It is really fast to use and powerfull. The results are awesome, even for non specialists like myself:

 

 

 

Enjoy! :rolleyes:

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Hands Down.....Modo, by luxology.

 

Sub-d modeler, renderings, and animation.

 

And as FYI, iRay is not new, it's the same rendering engine that Bunkspeed now uses. Keyshot use to be what Bunkspeed 'rented' but then switched to iRay. Also purchasing Catia just for renderings is INSANE!!!

 

Just 2 cents

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