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ok well i know a brave bit about computers, not saying im an expert and there may be some holes in my information but i know a hell of alot more that the average cup of Joe.

 

ok so this is what i think.

 

i Dont think its my CPU, as my CPU scores very high up compared to latest CPU's that are out there.

this takes into account CPUS above mine including the new Intel I7's

as for Quads in my opinion there over rated and extremely over Heated.

at the time of buying my Core2 Duo E8400, it was the best on the market bare none and was blowing all other Quads out of the water. i think the only compeition to it now would be the Intel I7 range and cause there so expensive im not ready to upgrade to one.

 

again as for GPU, the 8800GTS OC 512mb with its G92 core blew all other 8800's including the Ultra and even some of the 9000 range from nvidia compared to Statistics and numbers, this was becuase it was the first (i think) to use the G92 core where as the others used an older .. if i remember G94 core the card is still very reliable and a good card at that. but what it lacks is that it needs another 512mb onboard ram to bring it up to 1GB onboard. like i siad most of nvidia's latest GPU range are still quite expensive and personaly im waiting to see what they bring out to benifit the Intel I7 range. ( Nvidia 10,000 range perhaps, and id reckon they will have 2gb onboard )

 

as for my 4gb ram, i use the following operating systems :

 

Windows XP Pro 32bit - Old main (transphering files to the 64bit edition)

Windows XP Pro 64bit - main

Windows Seven 64bit - Testing

 

 

ok so thats what i think, it may be right it may be wrong :sorry:

but the fact is wer kinda geting off topic here.

wasnt this topic about the problem of CS4. :oops:

 

haha ya, so the solution is to stick with what you've got :)

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but 4 gb is way more than you need, the only thing is your cpu i think. could be your gpu too as buff said, but a 8800 is pretty good, and 512 mb...

 

a quad core is good, but they are VERY expensive, you could try a faster core 2 duo... if you go somewhere like frys where they have a good return policy you can try diffrent ones i guess...

 

 

4GB is more than you can use on a single app on a 32bit OS, but I dont think ther is such a thing as too much RAM, is there?

 

8800 may well be pretty good.... for crusing up the highstreet in a aston DB9 on GT4, but for DCC, you need a Quadro FX (or ATI equiv, but I get allong better with Nvidia), even a 256MB FX card will out perform the 8800 (usually)

 

I dont think quad core is expensive when you consider the advantages. at least this machine Im typing on now wasnt much. about £1K for a 2.66 and 6gb RAM

 

If your running Vista, you need 1gb just to run the OS

 

true, u can't have too much ram, but after a certain point it's not necessary. like the mac pro say expandable to 16 gb or something, but you're never going to need 16 gb of ram.

 

true, but a 8800 is still decent. do you know how the 9 series is? if they are worth a upgrade from a 8 or 7?

 

what brand and where did u get your computer? 1k for all that is a good deal.

 

Well at risk of seeming off topic, it's a HP. not that I'm recomending it. I use it as a home PC, not a workstation and it was purchased from a highstreet store.

 

16gb of RAM too much? erm, OK depends what you wan to do I guess. I dont really see aproblem of having 16gb or more, if you can use it.

 

I dont really think this is OT btw, hardware has something to do with software, afterall, Adobe recomend minimum requirements

 

Windows

1.8GHz or faster processor

Microsoft® Windows® XP with Service Pack 2 (Service Pack 3 recommended) or Windows Vista® Home Premium, Business, Ultimate, or Enterprise with Service Pack 1 (certified for 32-bit Windows XP and 32-bit and 64-bit Windows Vista)

512MB of RAM (1GB recommended)

1GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on flash-based storage devices)

1,024x768 display (1,280x800 recommended) with 16-bit video card

Some GPU-accelerated features require graphics support for Shader Model 3.0 and OpenGL 2.0

DVD-ROM drive

QuickTime 7.2 software required for multimedia features

Broadband Internet connection required for online services*

 

As for the 8800. I've run one in this machine, when the warranty ran out I replaced it with an old Quadro FX550. Now it may not be upto running level 4 on DOOM (showing my age there), but for CAD, Rendering, Cinema 4D, PS7, InDesign, its way better and had only 256mb

 

thing is with Hardware. Better than average Joe experts often dont have the Yogi "smarter than the average bear boo boo" knowlage that a specialist supplier who has the resource to experiment and optimize the components to each other.

 

I know that EDS run benchmarks of a minimum 6 months when trialing anything, be it hardware or software, and they are EXPERTS

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thing is with Hardware. Better than average Joe experts often dont have the Yogi "smarter than the average bear boo boo" knowlage that a specialist supplier who has the resource to experiment and optimize the components to each other.

 

 

emm, was that a crack at me ... :P

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but 4 gb is way more than you need, the only thing is your cpu i think. could be your gpu too as buff said, but a 8800 is pretty good, and 512 mb...

 

a quad core is good, but they are VERY expensive, you could try a faster core 2 duo... if you go somewhere like frys where they have a good return policy you can try diffrent ones i guess...

 

 

4GB is more than you can use on a single app on a 32bit OS, but I dont think ther is such a thing as too much RAM, is there?

 

8800 may well be pretty good.... for crusing up the highstreet in a aston DB9 on GT4, but for DCC, you need a Quadro FX (or ATI equiv, but I get allong better with Nvidia), even a 256MB FX card will out perform the 8800 (usually)

 

I dont think quad core is expensive when you consider the advantages. at least this machine Im typing on now wasnt much. about £1K for a 2.66 and 6gb RAM

 

If your running Vista, you need 1gb just to run the OS

 

true, u can't have too much ram, but after a certain point it's not necessary. like the mac pro say expandable to 16 gb or something, but you're never going to need 16 gb of ram.

 

true, but a 8800 is still decent. do you know how the 9 series is? if they are worth a upgrade from a 8 or 7?

 

what brand and where did u get your computer? 1k for all that is a good deal.

 

Well at risk of seeming off topic, it's a HP. not that I'm recomending it. I use it as a home PC, not a workstation and it was purchased from a highstreet store.

 

16gb of RAM too much? erm, OK depends what you wan to do I guess. I dont really see aproblem of having 16gb or more, if you can use it.

 

I dont really think this is OT btw, hardware has something to do with software, afterall, Adobe recomend minimum requirements

 

Windows

1.8GHz or faster processor

Microsoft® Windows® XP with Service Pack 2 (Service Pack 3 recommended) or Windows Vista® Home Premium, Business, Ultimate, or Enterprise with Service Pack 1 (certified for 32-bit Windows XP and 32-bit and 64-bit Windows Vista)

512MB of RAM (1GB recommended)

1GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on flash-based storage devices)

1,024x768 display (1,280x800 recommended) with 16-bit video card

Some GPU-accelerated features require graphics support for Shader Model 3.0 and OpenGL 2.0

DVD-ROM drive

QuickTime 7.2 software required for multimedia features

Broadband Internet connection required for online services*

 

As for the 8800. I've run one in this machine, when the warranty ran out I replaced it with an old Quadro FX550. Now it may not be upto running level 4 on DOOM (showing my age there), but for CAD, Rendering, Cinema 4D, PS7, InDesign, its way better and had only 256mb

 

thing is with Hardware. Better than average Joe experts often dont have the Yogi "smarter than the average bear boo boo" knowlage that a specialist supplier who has the resource to experiment and optimize the components to each other.

 

I know that EDS run benchmarks of a minimum 6 months when trialing anything, be it hardware or software, and they are EXPERTS

16 gb of ram is nice and all, but there are very few people who can actually use all of it. I mean I'm never going to need more than 2gb till i actually start using photoshop and all the pro stuff...

 

So the one you have now is a upgraded... explains the 1k price...

 

My dad was saying that cs4 was made to run on 64 bit windows, which is why it's now faster on a windows than a mac... you could try that I guess...

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I can't try all of the applications in the Adobe Creative Suite 4 Master Collection with the depth I can use both Photoshop and Illustrator, but if these two and Bridge CS4 are any sign of what to expect from the other ten apps in the package and from what I've been able to read in reviews of After Effects, Premiere, InDesign, or Flash, it seems they are as good the collection is completely worth the $US2,500 it costs.

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thing is with Hardware. Better than average Joe experts often dont have the Yogi "smarter than the average bear boo boo" knowlage that a specialist supplier who has the resource to experiment and optimize the components to each other.

 

 

emm, was that a crack at me ... :)

 

I think it was.. I don't know why people take shots like that. You had a valid concern and I have a very similar rig. I don't have any other answers for you on the CS4 unfortunately. The limited RAM on the graphics card may affect some of the processing of the large files and such, but the quick stroke drawing smooth issue could be something else completely.

 

The fact of the matter is nobody here has the answer and if most of you think his computer isn't good enough to run this app I really wonder what is expected.. Of course a workstation graphics card is good for this type of thing but you shouldn't need it. The 8800 has all the pixel shader support and anything else this program needs.

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Sometimes dropping down the graphics acceleration in your display preferences helps. I had that problem in sketchbook pro 2010 when in tablet mode on my tablet pc, the display would slow down and the pen would lag. Dropping the graphics acceleration option down 1 level fixed that problem (but it does introduce some visual glitches with the cursor).

CS4 has some new "flick" technology that lets you throw the canvas around, maybe there's a way to turn off all of those new items in the preferences to speed it up. I just installed it yesterday so didn't get to explore too much.

 

I'm on an old tecra m7 tablet pc that's under the min. specs recommended by cs4 and don't seem to be having problems. I haven't had a chance to load up a heavy file yet to see how it handles but I think a lot of it is the graphics card. They recommend 128 mb ram on the card and that's the only place where I'm above spec with 256. Other than that, I'm pretty low, 1.8ghz processor, 1gb ram. When I zoom in really close, it seems to show pixels really weird but that might have to do with the new "screen resolution" options.

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