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Jul 11 2005, 02:07 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
I've had a couple of people ask me for an illustrator/ photoshop tutorial so here it is. For a later tutorial I'll go into specifics of Illustrator linework (it's really easy) but for this one I'm mainly focusing on creating the "no-line" photoshop rendering for products. No special tools needed, I did this completely with an uncomfortable apple mouse.
-I would consider this type to be the next step up from a good sketch rendering to show more exact and realistic form and proportions for presentations. These can be done fairly quickly. Assuming all of the thumbnail sketch design exploration is done, on average I could do about 5 pages of these in a regular work day (as long as no managers or marketers are over my shoulder and leave me alone so I can work, lol!!) Okay, so here it goes, hopefully I'm clear enough with these so buckle up! Start with sketch drawing to figure out what you want. Do them nicer if you want an easier illus trace session but don't spend much time on it. I don't do these neat at all..since I'm going to be retranslating and drawing in illustrator anyway, no need to waste time duplicating efforts. I'll do them quickly, just enough to get the point across and let me know what I'm doing. These were about 10 seconds each, timed.
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Number of downloads: 544Redraw in Illustrator, .5 to 1 pt line weight. Anything smaller turns to grey in PS and makes it hard to make clean selections. If you do decent hand drawings, you can scan and trace. I personally just do 10 sec. fugly sketches then just draw from scratch in illus, no underlays. I take my time with the illus line art, it's very important and makes the renderings go by extremely fast. I took about 20 min. to do the line art for these 3 views below total. With a little practice and a good critical eye you'll be able to do quick illus lineart on the fly that'll just take a little bit longer for a good sketcher to do by hand of similar quality... ........................................................... -Warning: Personal rant coming, feel free to skip! But when you then have to do 10 variations, they'll be hunting for white out and a photocopier with an extra 1 1/2 hrs of work, you'll be finished the variations in 10 minutes, that's where it pays off and you'll be faster in the long run. They serve different purposes...so do what's most appropriate for what you're trying to accomplish. For exploring, figuring things out, and coming up with ideas quickly, sketch it up, quick and sloppy. For doing things where proportion is important and presenting to clients, use illustrator. I don't spend any time obsessing over getting ellipses right by hand, if the drawing has to be good enough where ellipse accuracy line quality and good perspective is important, then it's in the next level and it's illustrator time. -End of rant ...................................... For this tut, we're doing a more refined rendo, so we want to be real clean, that's where illustrator kicks butt. -Pay attention to tangencies and good line curvature. Use similar mentality as 3-d modelling if you know any. Control point where 2 curves are tangent. The least control points the better, etc... I won't get too into the illus techs with this one, I'll do another tut for good line art practices. -Bring into photoshop 300dpi, transparent bckgrnd. With both programs open you can just drag from one window to the other, no need to export or open as.
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Jul 11 2005, 02:13 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
Pay attention to corners, make sure they're closed in illus, it's a must for the magic wand tool which is a huge time-saver in photoshop.
-Be careful of sharp pointy intersections. They probably won't exist in actual product so they shouldn''t be in your drawing either. They'll disapper when you rendo but better to do it purposefully with rounded edges, etc. (I know I have some sharpies here. I was just doing this for practice one day, didn't know I was going to be using it for a tut) -Put EVERYTHING on a seperate layer. It'll save you lots of troubles down the line, trust me. Everybody will have changes and others may finish stuff you start and vice versa. Good layer management is extremely important for variations, corrections, and working in groups. It's not fine art anymore people. Organize similar things into folders. Newer versions of ps lets you have folders inside of folders, that's really nice. You can even color code some layers. It helps when you have a one file of 30 different product variations with over 100 layers! -Make a blank white layer so you can turn it on or off whenever, helps to see different things.
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Jul 11 2005, 02:15 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
Now shift<magic wand> select all the contrast color areas. It's kind of hard to see the marching ants here, but you'll get the idea.
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Jul 11 2005, 02:16 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
Now expand the selection by 1 pixel so that it goes halfway through the line width.
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Jul 11 2005, 02:19 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
See how the expanded selection is halfway through line thickness. This is what will allow you to hide the lines and have a clean rendo. You'll have to experiment with the exact number depending on how thick you made your lines in illus. If you're just doing line art, line weight variation is good, but if you're bringing in to ps and you know that's your end goal, don't waste time doing stuff that won't matter later on. Keep it all one weight if going to a rendo, then you only have to remember one expand number for your selections.
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Jul 11 2005, 02:26 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
This is what happens with pointy areas, they don't get selected completely. Hey, if the magic wand can't select it plastic probably can't flow there or it'll break easily there anyway. But sometimes it's undesired so you have to use the <lasso> tool to add to the selection and fill in that corner if you want.
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Number of downloads: 345I made it pointy again with the lasso tool instead of having an uncontrolled gap in my rendo. Use the straight lasso tool, while holding down certain key combos, you can make it draw freehand or switch to straight on the fly. It's very useful. You can also use it to add or subtract from a selection. I can't stress it enough, learn your key commands people, that's where the speed comes in. Turns a 2 hr rendo into a 20 min rendo.
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Number of downloads: 318After you get your (expanded) adjusted selection areas, save them as an alpha channel so you don't have to go through that process again wasting time to select the same areas. Go to new alpha channel, then fill the selection so the white is showing. Command delete will fill the selection with the white background color. Here are the contrast color selection areas.
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Jul 11 2005, 02:31 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
These are the white color areas.
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Number of downloads: 351Fill in colors. Command-click the alpha channel to select it. The white part has a slight color to it, it's more realistic that way and can make selecting areas easier. I'm not doing the open view here, decided it was unnecessary for what I'm trying to show with this page. It would be easy to rendo the open lid and interior seperately then just add it in another layer.
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Number of downloads: 321-------------------- www.coroflot.com/mikaris
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Jul 11 2005, 02:33 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
This contrast color green is just so you can see how the colors line up with no gaps (the top half of the product).
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Jul 11 2005, 02:37 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
Use your 2 alpha channels to select the body of the whole product. <command-click> on the channel in the list to select it, shift click the other channel on the list to add it so that both are selected at the same time.
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Number of downloads: 309With the whole body selected, give a general body shadow (on a seperate layer!). Use a big feathered brush. You can stroke outside of the lines so just the fade is getting on the rendo. -I did this with a black airbrush, some do it with dodging and burning. (I actually like the d+b now for color areas but I didn't know about that technique when I did this rendo.) -Remember, put EVERYTHING on a different layer, makes revisions go by much faster because somebody is going to come over and ask you to change something last minute, I guarantee! -Put black shadows and white highlight layers at 50-75% opacity. That way you can boost them up if you need depending on printer or your bosses taste. Nothing worse than having nice subtle shadows on a 100% layer and then they say it's too light. Layers and opacity gives you really good modifiable control. Takes a little longer to set up but saves you lots of time in the long run.
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Number of downloads: 307-------------------- www.coroflot.com/mikaris
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Jul 11 2005, 03:07 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
View of just the basic shading so far, lines included....
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Number of downloads: 317....basic shading...lines are hidden.
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Jul 11 2005, 03:09 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
Add additional shade spots as needed. <magic wand> select areas while you're on the first blank "line" layer to select a space that's completely closed by black lines.
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Jul 11 2005, 03:16 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
Oops, forgot to say, I' was showing these with the colors off so you can clearly see what I'm doing but I normally do the shading with all of the base colors on so you can see what's going on. If "marching ants" bother you, <command-h> to hide them. Don't forget that's what you did or you'll get reall frustrated trying to select something thinking it's not working!
I'm faking and adding even more shade to the contrast color to make it pop more. Still using original lines or the alpha channels to get specific selection areas with the magic wand like that little scoop to shade. Use your artistic judgement, no die-hard rules, work it til it looks right.
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Jul 11 2005, 03:18 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
Here is the base shading again, colors with no linework visible. Slowly coming together, still looks like clay at this point.
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Jul 11 2005, 03:21 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
Adding in a big drop shadow between the 3 main components. On seperate layers of course. Don't want to have to redo everything if I have to make a change.
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Number of downloads: 316-------------------- www.coroflot.com/mikaris
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Jul 11 2005, 03:23 AM
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Product ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 16-October 04 From: Illinois Member No.: 565 Status: Professional Michael Harris Industrial Design |
Shadows are helping but it's still a little flat along certain curved areas. Good enough if you want it to look like you rendered it in illustrator without gradients but I'm trying to be riiiich biatch! so time to step it up a notch.
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